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Multiple Mark Mess
      #2982910 - 08/29/04 12:51 PM

I am continuing to have problems with MultiMark teleportation system. I used the TES to redate all 3 esp's (I have MW + T + B) to load them last except Necessities and the merged files. I tried EVERY combination of cleaning with and without TESTool. I got rid of the "Almsivi/Divine" thing, but I keep getting the "teleportation doesn't work" message in spite of everything. TESPCD didn't help me. I read the readme file. What am I missing?

I really want to use either this teleport mod or something similar. If this won't work, perhaps some kind soul can recommend a reasonable alternative.

Thanks for all the help. I appreciate it greatly.

The following are the plugins I am running. Perhaps someone can identify a problem.

[Game Files]
GameFile0=BH HighElf F.esm
GameFile1=BH HighElf M.esm
GameFile2=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile3=Book Rotate.esm
GameFile4=Morrowind.esm
GameFile5=MW Patch v162.esm
GameFile6=Tribunal.esm
GameFile7=AltGold2.esp
GameFile8=Amulets & Rings.esp
GameFile9=Apologies.esp
GameFile10=Assassin 10.esp
GameFile11=Bathing.esp
GameFile12=Book Rotate B.esp
GameFile13=Book Rotate T.esp
GameFile14=Conjurer's Robes.esp
GameFile15=DMR2T.esp
GameFile16=Dodge 1-2T.esp
GameFile17=Dwemer Coin.esp
GameFile18=Expansion Weather.esp
GameFile19=Female Body.esp
GameFile20=Female Robes B.esp
GameFile21=Female Robes M.esp
GameFile22=Female Robes T.esp
GameFile23=Foxy Leveling.esp
GameFile24=Foxy Lights.esp
GameFile25=Improved Staffs 1-2.esp
GameFile26=Infernal Summon 1-1.esp
GameFile27=Kai Globes 2.8.esp
GameFile28=Merged_Dialogs.esp
GameFile29=Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp
GameFile30=Merged_Objects.esp
GameFile31=Meteor.esp
GameFile32=MultiMark.esp
GameFile33=MultiMark_BloodmoonPlugin.esp
GameFile34=MultiMark_TribunalPlugin.esp
GameFile35=Night Locks.esp
GameFile36=NoM 201.esp
GameFile37=P R E v4.esp
GameFile38=Plain Paper.esp
GameFile39=Race Birthsign Remix.esp
GameFile40=Rational Wildlife.esp
GameFile41=Real Weather.esp
GameFile42=Scripted Spells.esp
GameFile43=Signs.esp
GameFile44=Solstheim Tower 3.esp
GameFile45=Soulgems.esp
GameFile46=Sound Enhancements.esp
GameFile47=Telvanni Robes 2.esp
GameFile48=Theurgist.esp
GameFile49=Thief Overhaul.esp
GameFile50=Windows Glow 2.esp

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Re: Multiple Mark Mess [Re: ]
      #2982935 - 08/29/04 01:02 PM

When i use it i always get the message but the screen comes up anyway.

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Re: Multiple Mark Mess [Re: Evoker]
      #2982958 - 08/29/04 01:12 PM

If I understand you correctly, you got rid of the Almsivi/Divine combo spell, yes? That's how it works, instead of with the actual Mark spell (at least I think so-I know it was that way in SOME version). It detects when you have those two effects on you, as that won't normally happen, and then it pops up with the menu of where to go.

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Edited by The_Silent_Pyro (08/29/04 01:13 PM)

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Re: Multiple Mark Mess [Re: Evoker]
      #2982973 - 08/29/04 01:17 PM

Quote:

When i use it i always get the message but the screen comes up anyway.



Same here - regardless of different approaches to cleaning/not cleaning etc. Message comes up but it works, a bit annoying is all. After awhile I hardly notice it.



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Re: Multiple Mark Mess [Re: Ronin49]
      #2983814 - 08/29/04 05:03 PM

Didn't multimark's readme say *not* to clean it as that would mess it up?

I used it straight out of the zip no problem. I *think* I used TESTool to update the header, but in no other way touched it.

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Re: Multiple Mark Mess [Re: MannyJabrielle]
      #2984163 - 08/29/04 06:21 PM

Quote:

Didn't multimark's readme say *not* to clean it as that would mess it up?



Yes, indeed it does.



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Re: Multiple Mark Mess [Re: Ronin49]
      #2984998 - 08/29/04 10:39 PM

Hello Ronin ,

Rules to deal with this mod:
1. Never load it via CS
2. Try to place it as high as possible on your mod list
3. Clean ALL the plugins above (IMO TESPCD is the best)
4. Do not clean particular esp-s of our mod ( main esp and this for Tribunal are clean; esp for Bloodmoon has 5-6 unclean entries - leave them (this dirt is healthy )

If you do all the above - you will be fine.

Ps. I have another subject for the list for you: "Mods of the special care" - you know: Private Mobile Base, Vampire Embrise etc

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Re: Multiple Mark Mess [Re: Mahatma_Dandee]
      #2985052 - 08/29/04 10:52 PM

Quote:

Rules to deal with this mod:



Thanks for posting those for all of us. [PMed you].



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Edited by Ronin49 (08/29/04 11:18 PM)

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Re: Multiple Mark Mess [Re: ]
      #2986396 - 08/30/04 12:24 PM

I did all that - followed the rules precisely using the Multimark Bloodmoon esp straight out of the zip, loading it at the top just before NoM and the TESTool merged lists. Not only do I get the 'teleport doesn't work' message, but when the menu box opens up, I can't make a new mark. 'Almsivi/Divine' message is not an issue.

2 things occur to me. If I should avoid resetting the date with the TES, how else can I change the date? Also, should I load the (specifically) Multimark Bloodmoon esp AFTER NoM and the 3 merged lists?

Otherwise I guess I'll have to ditch Multimark ( ) and make a ring or something to let me set 6 or so constant places and use the basic Mark/Recall for missions. Perhaps I could justify it as a reward for reaching a particular (senior) level in my advancement - maybe in stages.

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Re: Multiple Mark Mess [Re: ]
      #2986557 - 08/30/04 01:24 PM

Your problems seem strange, really as it works perfectly fine for me. As the rule - to change the date/orderness of your mods do not use CS but rather Plugin Recorder, available e.g. form

http://www.endhome.com/

do it and you will be ok

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Re: Multiple Mark Mess [Re: Mahatma_Dandee]
      #2987455 - 08/30/04 05:31 PM

Excellent. I'll try the re-order utility to see if it helps. If not . . . plan B!



Addendum:
Got JAVA and the re-order utility.
Will remove ALL Multimark esp's and use TESTool to clean everything else.
Will reinstall MM esp's from scratch.

QUESTION: since Necessities wants to be last (before the TESTool merged files), where should I put the MM esp's? (Be nice!?!)

Sorry to be such a pain, but I REALLY want to use the Multimark mod!!!!

BTW - can I expect a drop in performance with Multimark?

Thanks again.

Edited by gutplumbr (08/30/04 06:01 PM)

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Re: Multiple Mark Mess [Re: ]
      #2989588 - 08/31/04 07:56 AM


The performance drop issue is more matter of your system then the mod under duscussion, however for my PIV 3,2 Ghz; 1G RAM; Radeon 9800XT system I experienced 1-2 fps hit using MM. With NoM, you do not have to be so strict . E.g. I placed Multi Mark mod as the 12th on my list of 370 merged mods. After MM I have only ASE, Wilderness Sounds, all MWE mods, B&G and all my rotate mods. Acording to my experience it is good to place MM BEFORE the general balance mods you use.

I hope this helps, good luck
Mahatma

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Re: Multiple Mark Mess [Re: Mahatma_Dandee]
      #2989900 - 08/31/04 10:39 AM

Thanks for the help. Will probably have to wait for the weekend so I can spend more time if needed.

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